ANB:
Why did you decide to become a cartoonist?
Ted: That question has two answers.
The decision first came when I was about 8 or 9 years old. I
just knew that when I grew up I was gonna do the same thing
for a living that Charles Schulz, Bob Montana and Ernie
Colon did. As I got older, though, it became tough for me to
figure out how to realistically pursue cartooning, so it
seemed that the smart thing to do was become a commercial
artist.
I put my dreams of cartooning on hold for about ten years
until I met the beautiful girl who would become my wife. She
saw how miserable I was doing graphic design work and
encouraged me to pursue cartooning again. So I set out to
become syndicated.
ANB: Which cartoonist inspired you?
Ted: I can't say any one cartoonist
inspired me more than another, and the ones who did inspired
me on different levels. I've found that it's important to
not set the people you admire on pedestals. I was inspired
by Charles Schulz' claim that he always did everything
himself, but then I found out that he had used assistants. I
admired Bill Watterson's stance on not licensing his
characters, and found out he had a Calvin & Hobbes movie in
the works. I still look to them for inspiration, along with
cartoonists like Bob Montana, Hank Ketcham, Dan DeCarlo,
Stan Lee, Frank Miller... but more on the level of their
storytelling and how they made it work.ANB:
Wow! I didn't know about the Calvin & Hobbes movie!
Ted: It was a fluke that I ran across
the information. I was searching a database of cartoon voice
actors and was surprised to see that the credits for one
included the mom in Calvin & Hobbes. I clicked on that link
and saw the rest of the actors. Bill Watterson himself was
credited for the two title characters.
My assumption is that early on Watterson didn't have such
strong feelings about the subject, but once he got involved
-- and apparently, kept tight control of -- the plan for an
animated feature, he started realizing the difficulties of
animating Hobbes and maintaining the spirit of the strip.
When he put the kabosh on it, that may have been when his
conflicts with the syndicate began. That's just speculation,
though.
ANB: What did you do to get syndicated?
Ted: I approached syndication like I
would any other job. I'd spent years developing my
cartooning skills, but started working on my storytelling
more. Instead of putting together something that was "new
and edgy," I picked a universal theme, the male/female
relationship. I worked with my wife on developing characters
that were based on us and tried to give them kind of a
"classic" look. I put together six weeks worth of dailies
along with a couple of Sundays and sent them out with my
resume and a cover letter to all the syndicates.
ANB: It sounds like Spooner fans have a lot to thank
your wife for!
Ted: Absolutely. I remember our
first brainstorming session at a little Irish restaurant in
Florida (okay, it was a pub). Several of the ideas from that
session were used in the strips for the launch. She really
got behind me on this project and believed in it. She keeps
me on track and helps Spooner from becoming just a "guy
strip." I'm not quite as clueless as Spooner, but as an
example, I once had Roxanne using the phrase, "popping out
babies." Robbin let me know that isn't a term women use. She
helps keep a balance to the strip. She's always offering new
scenarios for me to work with and is my primary editor. She
has written when I've been in a pinch, too.
ANB: When I first saw Spooner, I loved
the "classic" look of the strip! What made you decide to go
for that look?
Ted: When I first started
sketching character work-ups, they just looked like
everything else I ever drew, and I wanted them to look
different. I've always drawn very "roundy," so I redrew
Spooner, doing the exact opposite of what came natural. I
made his nose pointy instead of round, brought his hair
forward instead of combed back, drew dots for eyes with no
whites, made him slouch and bend his knees... I also wanted
to give him a set of clothes that he'd wear every day, like
the cartoon characters of old did. After a couple months of
drawing him in a default black t-shirt, I tried out a
fifties-type shirt and it seemed to work.
I also kept the style of strip
as simple as I could, both to create an older look for the
strip and to make sure I could keep up the look of the strip
on a daily basis. I suppose the alternative to having a
"classic" look, though, would be to have a modern one,
which, based on the modern assumption that writing is more
important than art, I'd define, quite frankly, as boring.
ANB: You mentioned working on your storytelling skills. How
did you do this?
Ted: The areas I'm most
concerned with are dialogue, timing and layout. I think
camera angles aren't nearly as important as framing and
editing. The way each frame is laid out creates the mood and
sets the flow for the strip. The biggest obstacle to all
this is the format itself. I try to not let the frames
dictate the look and flow of the strip.
I work at keeping the dialogue
simple and to the point while trying to keep it from
becoming bland, impersonal and terse. I'm inspired by old
television shows like The Dick Van Dyke Show, books by Mark
Twain and anything that makes each line of dialogue count.
Timing can be a little more difficult in today's more common
three-panel format. Four allows a little more of a set-up
but my lettering is fairly large, and I don't like for the
art to be crowded so that doesn't work as well for me. On
the other hand, sometimes it simply take 5 panels to make a
strip work, so I'll play around with the layout to try to
make it work. If not, it may go to a Sunday strip. Sundays
are a lot of fun, and again, I try to stay away from the
standard layout and use the space more effectively. Rather
than just take a daily gag and throw in some more dialogue,
I try to make the Sunday strips more visually impacting.
It's tough to remember that in most cases that strip is
gonna be only four inches tall and to still keep it simple.
I'd love to be able to draw Sundays two feet wide like in
the old days.
ANB: How long did it take you to become syndicated?
Ted: From the beginning of
making the decision to focus on a comic strip until my first
contact with a syndicate, it took about 2 1/2 years.
ANB: How many rejection letters did you get for
"Spooner?"
Ted: I had actually signed my
syndication contract before all the rejection letters had
rolled in. From the first batch I submitted I received two
letters of interest and four no-thank yous. I sent in a
second batch that I'd been working on in the meantime, and
decided to sign on with Los Angeles Times Syndicate.
ANB: Was "Spooner" your first comic strip?
Ted: A year before I started working
on Spooner, I'd sent in a strip using characters I'd created
when I was a kid. It was pretty forgetable, but a good
experience in finding out what did and didn't work.
ANB: So it wasn't hard to leave the old characters and
ideas behind then?
Ted: Naw. They're sentimental,
but I really didn't know what to do with them. Cartoon
characters are like people... it takes time to get to know
them, and over time you either grow fond of them, hate them
or just don't care. The most fascinating aspect of creating
brand new characters from scratch is that you don't know
them at all at first, and over time their personalities
start to develop in spite of what you want for them. It's
like making any new friend... you know a little about them
at first, but over time you start finding out new things
about them that you didn't know before. And often, you leave
your old friends behind that you've outgrown.
ANB: When you first placed "Spooner" on the web, did
you have a syndication contract?
Ted: I first put Spooner on the web
while waiting for responses from the syndicates. It was an
effort to motivate me to do a strip each day with a
self-imposed deadline. It was also an opportunity to get
feedback from readers, which is always encouraging and
helpful. And of course, you were one of the first to give me
feedback and offer a link to my site.
ANB: Well I'm always glad to support strips I like!
Ted: In my book, that makes you
more important than any newspaper syndicate. Now if you only
had a team of salespeople...
ANB: Once you achieved your goal of syndication, how
did your life change?
Ted: It's two years later and my
life is still changing. On a professional level, it allowed
me to go ahead and commit myself to the strip. In order to
do a truly good strip you have to be able to immerse
yourself in it, so I was now able to do that. It let me know
I could make a living at cartooning, which can be a
difficult thing nowadays. Essentially, I was able to start
taking myself seriously as a cartoonist, which can be
strangely difficult to do.
A few days before I got that call from LATS, though, our
first baby was born. That's changed my life more than
anything else possibly could. Two of the best things in my
life happened only a few days apart.
ANB: What's the most difficult thing to deal with now that
you are syndicated?
Ted: One thing that's rather difficult
is focusing on the relationship between a woman and a man,
namely my wife and myself, when there's a little ankle-biter
who'd taken over the household. What's really been
difficult, though, is having the strip put on hold due to
the buyout of LATS by the Tribune Co. Spooner's launch was
interrupted and it's been in a kind of stasis. Everyone I
worked with at LATS is gone, except, thankfully, my editor
Sarah Gillespie. She's the greatest.
ANB: So is Spooner no longer syndicated?
Ted: Spooner is distributed by
United Feature Syndicate as of September 30, 2001.
Editor's Note: Ted
recently decided to go into self syndication. He still
retained all of the papers he had while he was with United
Features and TMS.
ANB: Have you ever had your editor veto one of your strips?
Ted: I can think of only once when a
strip was actually vetoed. I expected it, but thought I'd
try it anyway. I think it is the best strip I've ever done.
The subject matter may be too intense for a so-called family
newspaper, I dunno. It's a syndicate editor's job to make
sure nothing offensive gets by, because several newspaper
editors don't like to bother with looking over the comics
every day themselves. Therefore, you can have this sort of
pre-emptive strike scenario. It's my experience, though,
that the strips everyone worries about just glide right by
readers, and the ones that get complaints, nobody could've
predicted it in the first place.
Mostly, Sarah keeps me on course and tells me if she thinks
a strip isn't working. Sometimes it's fixable, and sometimes
it just never should've gotten past the initial doodle. More
than anything, she's always been encouraging. I trust her.
ANB: Any plans on doing a "Spooner" book?
Ted: There'll be a Spooner anthology
once I believe the market can support it. I don't believe
we're in enough major markets to justify it yet. There's
also the possibilities of working with regional markets,
like Denver, and selling them on my website.
ANB: What is your favorite comic strip(s)?
Ted: That's an incredibly difficult
question. Of bygone strips, I'd say Peanuts, Gasoline Alley,
Prince Valiant, Calvin & Hobbes, Pogo, Dennis the Menace and
even early Family Circus. Of strips currently running, I
enjoy reading Mutts, Monkeyhouse, Superosity, Sunday
Gasoline Alleys, and sometimes Zits and FBOFW.
ANB: What do you think of the web as a medium for comic
strips?
Ted: I think that still, nobody has
figured out a way to truly exploit the medium. The web is a
great alternative for self-publishers, but the standard
static comic strip format doesn't utilize it's potential.
We've also gotta figure otu how to get paid more for it. As
internet connections get faster and TV-like capabilities are
more readily accessible, animation will probably dominate
the area of online cartooning.
ANB: Yeah, but there's just something about a comic strip
that animation will never fill.
Ted: That's absolutely true.
It's just a question of whether the internet is a viable
medium for an art form that originated and developed in the
pages of newspapers. The size of comic strips are based on
columns and inches, the same way an ad is. With the
internet, there ISN'T anything to base size and format on...
People use different screen settings, different browsers,
customize the size of their browsers... I think things will
work a little better when full-screen mode becomes more
common. Different screen sizes can be "forced" on a viewer,
but that can aggravate them. Still, you've got a whole
computer screen to use and, even considering the smallest
monitors out there, no cartoonist in his right mind, if
given the print space equivalent of a 12" X 9" space, would
use only a quarter of that space.
I think the biggest advantage
web comics have is the less-restricted ability to do longer
storylines. That's discouraged by the syndicates, for what
may be good reasons initially, but at some point you have to
give readers a reason to take the time to read your strip
every single day. And that's what readers of online comics
do, I'd guess, more so than the readers of newspaper comics.
Like you said, comics are a
medium unto themselves, and just because you animate them
doesn't make them any better. (I'll try to restrain from
giving examples.) Same as taking a book and turning it into
a movie. It becomes a completely different product. So I'm
not saying animating comic strips is the route to take, but
certainly people who read comics online expect a little
more. We've got to literally think outside the box and give
that to them. I say "we" because I hope to get back into the
game before long.
ANB: What's some advice you'd give to those trying to
get their foot in the door?
Ted: It's important to develop the
skills of the profession just like one would any other. The
worst thing a cartoonist can do is just draw cartoons all
the time. To improve one's writing, I recommend studying
playwrights and even the better sit-coms.
Persistence is important, but so is knowing when to move on
to the next strip idea. Becoming syndicated is less like
winning the lottery than it is sending out resumes to get a
job. I'd also like to see more cartoonists attempting
self-syndication. It's always a plus, as well as a great
experience, to have your work published.
Some good books on the subject
are
Your Career in Comics by Lee Nordling and any of the How
To book by Randy Glasbergen (www.glasbergen.com).
What's even better, though, is going through collections of
comics that were done a hundred years ago. Those guys
invented the whole medium, and hardly anything new has been
tried since then.
ANB: Anything else you'd like to add?
Ted: Write your local newspaper editor
and tell them to start running Spooner!
ANB: I promise I will! : D Thanks Ted!
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